Blessing or Curse ? “Full of Grace” ? … Where did that come from ?


YHWH CHANGE NOT

“MY GLORY I WILL NOT GIVE TO  ANOTHER” 

 Isaiah 42:8

JESUS said: “Take HEED that no man deceive you.”

The teaching about Mary being full of Grace and  without sin is a very post Nicene teaching from a religious system that began to apostatize and bring pagan teachings into the Christian church.

They are STILL doing that. 

The Myth of Mary as Queen of Heaven is TOTALLY MAN MADE and is a doctrine of demons. 

The Apostle Paul states that if ANYONE come to you preaching another Gospel than that which I have preached unto you, let him be ACCURSED / ANATHEMA, even if it is an Angel from Heaven”.

It is quite obvious that the teaching of Mary being queen of heaven, co-mediatrix, co-redemtrix, is TOTALLY ANOTHER GOSPEL and IS ACCURSED.

There is NO OTHER Mediator or Redeemer than CHRIST JESUS, YESHUA MASHIACH+.  

Come away from this false teaching, this doctrine of demons, for your Eternal well being.  Time is VERY short.

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Full-of-Grace ?

Part 2-B

 

A Deeper Look at “Hail, Mary

…Through the Eyes of Scripture

 A Guest post by Sr. Judith Hannah  + + +

 

Where did THAT phrase come from ?

 

“Full-of-grace” in Luke 1:28  is not found in ANY of the Greek manuscripts listed in Nestle-Aland’s 26th edition of the Greek New Testament.  There are NO VARIANTS listed in that volume which indicate that phrase is found in ANY ancient Greek manuscript.

 

Oddly enough, “full-of-grace” is ALSO NOT FOUND in an Old Latin manuscript of note: Bezae’s Codex D, Greek-Latin diglot.  It has Greek on the left page and the same verses in Latin on the right page facing the Greek.

 

Written in the AD 400’s , Codex D was undoubtedly taken from Old Latin manuscripts of more ancient age which were used in “Western” areas of Christendom, Gaul and southern France and perhaps Italy. 

 
[ To see the transcript of the Old Latin manuscript writing found in Codex D online, see the note at the end of this article.]

 

Luke 1: 28

 et introiens angelus ad eam dixit


habe benedicta dms tecum


benedicta tu inter mulieres.

 

dms = Sacred abbreviation used in the ancient manuscripts . This one means “DOMINUS” ( LORD, nominative — subject — case)

 

habe benedicta = hail blest one the lower one BEING blest by the Superior ONE, of course. 

In English:

 

“and entering (the) angel to her said

hail blest (one)

(the) LORD (is) with you

blessed you (are) among women.”

 

Thus, the Latin found in Codex D, Bezae, Fifth Century , simply says: “Hail, blest one… “

 

 Modern Latin, However, is Another Story

 

“Full-of-grace”, however, is found in the modern LATIN VULGATE, whose original author was Jerome, completing the work over several years, around the year 400 AD.

 

The mystery thickens when we realize that Jerome translated the Latin Vulgate from Greek manuscripts — which did not have “full-of-grace” — and Old Latin ( Vetus Latina or Itala) manuscripts.

 

True, Jerome may have written the Latin Vulgate before Codex D was composed… but the Old Latin manuscripts upon which both were based were likely similar.  That is, both Codex D and Jerome would have used the best of the Old Latin manuscripts which they could have procured.

 

Keep in mind, the QUALITY of the Old Latin manuscripts varied greatly, according to Dean John William Burgon , pages 140-141, in his classic, The Traditional Text of the Holy Gospels,  originally written in 1896. 

He quotes Augustine of Hippo regarding the multitude of un-authorized , independent, rather rough Old Latin texts circulating in great abundance. ( See that book’s Footnote 2: De Doctr. ii.16). 

 

Furthermore, among the “Western Texts” of the Early Church’s manuscripts, Codex D was the most important manuscript, according to Wikipedia’s article on Codex D.  

 

Yet,

neither the Greek manuscripts

nor Codex D’s manuscripts of the Old Latin

have “Full-of-Grace” in them !

 

 

Thus, WHERE did the CURRENT Latin Vulgate version obtain

 

“Hail Mary, “Full-of-Grace” ?

 

 

The LATIN VULGATE currently released to the public has Luke 1: 28  written:

 

et ingressus angelus ad eam dixit

have gratia plena Dominus

tecum benedicta tu in mulieribus.

 

LITERAL TRANSLATION:

 

“And coming in (the) angel to her said

hail (one) “Full-of-Grace”

(the) LORD (is) with you

blessed you (are) among women”

 

Thus, the Latin Vulgate reads as though the Angel Gabriel was giving Mary AN HONORARY SALUTE and doing his obeisance to her ! 

 

Instead, the actual text shows that the Angel was bringing TO HER a message of comfort and great joy:

 

“You, REJOICE! O one having been favored,

The LORD is with you.”

 

 

ANOTHER WITNESS 

against “Full-of-Grace

 

An earlier Latin writer who was “into” Mary adulation was Gregory of Thaumatagurus.  He was a bishop of Neo-Ceasarea .  He wrote three homilies somewhere between 205 and 265 AD… almost two centuries before Jerome.

 

His homilies sound like NO OTHER bishop’s homilies in his adulation of his IDEA of who Mary was and her ” many virtues”, so unlike the New Testament witness which we have in Scripture.  [ See ANF, Volume 6, pages 58 – 67. The first three homilies of Gregory Thaumatagurus. ]

 

Nevertheless, his witness is valuable to us because he wrote in Latin and consistently and constantly directed his praises ( GOD forbid ) to Mary by calling her “O highly favored one “. 

NEVER  ONCE did this mis-directed bishop ever call her “full-of-grace.” 

 

Why is this significant ?

 

It is significant because it is highly probable that if he could WRITE in Latin, then he could read Latin well. It is very likely, then, that the manuscripts he used were written in the OLD LATIN, Vetus Latina, Old Itala.

 

It is likely that this adulator of Mary would have most certainly incorporated into his three essays about her the highest terms of laudation that he could have found.  If “full-of-grace” had been found in the Old Latin manuscripts, he likely would have used it throughout those essays.  

 

The Vulgate had not yet been developed. Jerome came almost two centuries later.

 

If Gregory of Thaumatagurus used any Greek manuscripts, they too would have agreed with the OLD LATIN of Luke 1:28. 

 

In short, Gregory of Thaumatagurus, in the 200’s , did not veer one time AWAY from “highly favored one” in his writings of those 3 homilies adulating Mary. That fact gives a strong testimony to the Old Latin and the Greek manuscripts instead of the Latin Vulgate that we have now

 

Keep in mind: the Greek manuscripts did NOT have “Full-of-Grace” in Luke 1:28 and we know that at least one MAJOR Old Latin manuscript ( Codex D, Bezae) did NOT have “Full-of-Grace” in it, either.  

 

 

The old GENEVA Bible, ostensibly translated from the Waldensian’s Bible of the Old Itala ( i.e., Old Latin. See http://www.ekkcom.net/gail17.htm The EKKLESIA COMMUNICATOR) , says this for Luke 1:28:

 

And the Angel went in unto her, and said,

Hail thou that art

freely beloved,

the Lord is with thee;

blessed art thou among women.

Luke 1: 28

Courtesy of Biblegateway.com

1599 Geneva Bible

 

This rendition is accompanied by a footnote saying “”Full-of-Grace” and favor” is also acceptable. [ ed. Note: Exactly why it is also acceptable is not explained, as that is not found in the Greek text.   ]

 

The ODD thing is that “HIGHLY favored” is not in the Greek either. Literally, the phrase being translated accurately is :

 

” You, REJOICE!

O one having been favored… “

 

  The verb is a participle, Perfect, Passive, Vocative, Feminine, Singular . hence:   

  • having ( Perfect ) …

  • been (Passive) ….

  • favored ( participle form).

  • Vocative means it was spoken in direct address, thus: “O one… ”

  • Feminine means to a female;

  • Singular means not to a crowd but applying to one person.

 

Some would choose ” having been graced” , since favor and grace are used somewhat interchangeably by translators.  However, the ROOT of that participle means ” to favor.”

 

The Summary of FACTS

 

Thus, it seems that the composers of  ” Hail, Mary, “Full-of-Grace””  have added a few words to the Angel Gabriel’s greeting to the Hebrew virgin, along with un-intended adulation of the Hebrew virgin Mariam.  

 

  • There is no “Mary” ,

  • there is no “Full-of-Grace” in the Greek manuscripts,

  • there is no “Full-of-Grace” in at least SOME of the Old Latin manuscripts ( Codex D, Bezae’s being the most prominent),

  • and there is no “HIGHLY” .

 

Hail  itself would have been better translated literally as the command that it is: 

You.. REJOICE ! 

 Furthermore,  an accurate translation from the Greek of “having been favored” puts the focus  squarely upon The LORD GOD,  the ONE WHO had called Mary to bring to birth the Babe JESUS into this world of woe.

  

“HIGHLY ” should never have entered the translated page in English.

 

The DIFFERENCE between the literal salutation and man’s version is that the SALUTE by Gabriel should have turned readers to focus upon The LORD GOD instead of to lauding Mary because she was supposedly “Full-of-Grace”.

 

SO… Where did the Latin Vulgate 

obtain “Full-of-Grace” ?

  

If “Full-of-Grace” was:

 

  • NOT from the Greek manuscripts, and if it was

  • not found in the Old Latin of Codex D and the Old Latin used 200 years before Jerome by Bishop Gregory of Thaumatagurus…

 

from WHERE then was it obtained ?

 

 

Where did the scholarly and learned Jerome obtain “Full-of-Grace” for Mary in Luke 1:28 ?

 

THAT is a good question because…

 

Jerome used two sources to compile the authorized Latin Vulgate:  some Greek texts and some  Old Latin manuscripts.

 

However, the Latin Vulgate available to the public TODAY is the Clementine Vulgate… which differs from Jerome’s original version. 

As a matter of fact, the Latin version, the compilation and edited version from the Old Latin and some selected Greek texts, was not known as the “Vulgate” for three centuries after Jerome’s version was finished.

 

The Latin Vulgate which is released to the public today has Mary “full-of-grace” in Luke 1:28, but none of the Greek texts do. 

  

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown’s Commentary , ( pg. xliii, Introduction) states this:   

“Jerome revised the variety of readings of the Old Latin. Gospels were published in AD 384, the rest afterwards.  It took three centuries to supercede the Old Latin, when it received the name of “Vulgate.”  The Clementine Vulgate alone recognized in the church of Rome DIFFERS TO A CONSIDERABLE EXTENT  from the same version as left by Jerome. “

 ( Jamieson-Fausset-Brown, Vol. 3, page xliii, Introduction to the Gospels, Sources of  the Authority for the Text of the Gospels, JFB, Eerdmans, 1976 reprint).

  

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And the Angel went in unto her, and said,

Hail thou that art freely beloved,

the Lord  is with thee;

blessed  art thou among women.

Luke 1:28

Geneva Bible, courtesy of Biblegateway.com

 

Now Stephen full of faith and power,

did great wonders and miracles among the people.

Acts 6:8

KJV

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Let us pray:

 

Our FATHER, Who art in Heaven, we offer our prayers to THEE and to Thy Holy SON+ JESUS CHRIST. 

 

Let it never be said that we offer prayers to any other person, dead or alive, or even those alive with THEE, O LORD.

 

Keep us from going astray. Help us to measure every word, and more… every CONCEPT … that we hear.  

 

Help us to SIFT all spiritual teachings through the True Sieve of the Holy Scriptures, which were kept for us at a great price of Thy martyrs and confessors through the years.

 

We repent of neglecting to be vigilant and watchful, as Thy HOLY SON+ JESUS told us to be.

 

Wake us up, we pray. Let no-one take our crown, O FATHER. 

 

This we pray in the Life-Giving Name of our LORD JESUS CHRIST … and not his birth-mother’s.

 Amen and amen.

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  To see the transcript of the Old Latin manuscript writing found in Codex D online, go to:

 

the on-line site from the University of Cambridge ( UK ) Digital Library at  http://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-NN-00002-00041/ 

Folio 185r Quire_24-1r (flesh) Luke1 sec(undum) lucan I·165-185

Line Numbers ( on the left side of the column)  Verse Numbers ( on the right side of the column. ) ]

 

These verses are on PDF page 350.

  • Go to the GREEN BOX in the lower right-hand part of the page.

  • Click on “VIEW MORE OPTIONS.”

  • Then click on “transcriptions ( diplomatic)” for the Latin which is on the Codex. It is readable. Otherwise, reading the Codex itself in Latin is a difficult struggle due to the age of the document and the scanning process of the document for the computer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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