What Does Obamacare, Saul Alinsky,Cloward-Piven, & Hope & Change Have To Do With Me; A Christian?

Let’s make some sense out of the confusion and chaos with obamacare.  There are so many scandals with this era and president it’s hard to find a starting point.  Benghazi was bad enough, the mis-truth’s and propaganda associated with that are in itself mind boggling.  Mind boggling in that so many people believe every piece of propaganda they are fed.  We have already discovered that the Media is in the pocket of the government.  If you haven’t discovered this than you need to seriously look at what you are swallowing.


Obamacare is not some great humanitarian plan that will save America from it’s disastrous healthcare system.  We forget one basic thing.  America has been on the cutting edge for decades for health care.  We have some of the top medical facilities in the World!  We have some of the top teaching facilities in the World!   So why are we trying to fix a system that is the top??  This is not about a broken system, it never was.  This is all about bringing about a New Order to things.  This is all about community organizing to bring about a socialist system.  Yes it is!  Let’s take a look at the handbook that they are using.  ‘Rules for Radicals’  by Saul Alinsky.  I know, by now your eyes are glazing over and your rolling your eyes, but at least read about these people, and tell me you don’t see parallels.  And remember, he dedicated this rule book to LUCIFER, the very first radical (his words not mine)!



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The following is an excerpt from ‘Crossroad’ :

Notes on Saul Alinsky and Neo-Marxism:

Alinsky’s tactics were based, not on Stalin’s revolutionary violence, but on the Neo-Marxist strategies of  Antonio Gramsci, an Italian Communist. Relying on gradualism, infiltration and the dialectic process rather than a bloody revolution, Gramsci’s transformational Marxism was so subtle that few even noticed the deliberate changes.

Like Alinsky, Mikhail Gorbachev followed Gramsci, not Lenin. In fact, Gramsci aroused Stalins’s wrath by suggesting that Lenin’s revolutionary plan wouldn’t work in the West. Instead the primary assault would be on Biblical absolutes and Christian values, which must be crushed as a social force before the new face of Communism could rise and flourish. Malachi Martin gave us a progress report:

“By 1985, the influence of traditional Christian philosophy in the West was weak and negligible…. Gramsci’s master strategy was now feasible. Humanly speaking, it was no longer too tall an order to strip large majorities of men and women in the West of those last vestiges that remained to them of Christianity’s transcendent God.


Are you beginning to see?  You can read the whole article by clicking on the above link.  Every one of obamas followers and administration has quoted some part of this rule book at some point in the last years.

Rule 6 deals with obama’s job in this plan for New Order.  It states “The first step in community organizing is community disorganization , all change means disorganization of the old and organization of the new. ”  The mission of the organizer is to stir up so much dissention, disatisfaction,and discontent, that people actually feel guilty for accepting the previous norm.  HELLO!  Remember ‘Hope & Change’  did you forget the whole campaign?  What about his wife telling us, ‘Barrack will never let us turn back to the old’?  What about the fundamental transformation of America?  Well it is here.  We have a president who has blessed murder, sodomy and hosts celebrations to other gods in our capitol.  We have gone too far.  I really don’t think we will ever get back what we had.

Then there is the Cloward-Piven strategy.  Along these same lines these 2 planned to flood the system with people to bring it down, so that socialistic practices could come into play.  Read here.

So when you put the 2 together you can begin to see what is happening.  God will not turn a blind eye to the sins of the Nation.  That’s right we are a Nation.  God does warn us to be separate from that world view, as our inheritance is in heaven, not earth.  But why have millions of Christians remained silent while these things were brought to the forefront by dark evil forces?  They buckled & bowed to man, they said, ok, you will let us have riches beyond measure and in return we will bow to you and teach our followers to do the same.  This is what the church has done in the last 40 years.  The Bible belt is gone, the Catholic church is treading water, all other denominations are right there with them, some have either gone underwater or have jumped on board the demonic lifeboat of man’s governments, and are now preaching a watered down, man made doctrine, instead of the doctrine of Christ.  They are actually helping prophecy to unfold.  And even more are helping this to happen, because they have swallowed the dark man made doctrine that Jesus is coming ‘Secretly’ to rapture them out of this world so they won’t be here anyway, so why worry about it.  Shameful!  1Timothy 5:8  But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

So dear Brothers and Sisters it’s time to wake up, it’s time to take responsibility for looking to man’s savior for ‘Hope & Change’ instead of to God!


God’s judgment is coming to America and the world and yes even us as individuals.  Will you meet Him and be able to say you fought the good fight, that you spoke out against evil and sin?  Or will you find yourself weighed in the balance like Babylon and come up wanting?  Prepare, for the tribulation will spread like a cancer.


Some of our brothers and sisters are experiencing this tribulation already, are you ignoring it, or are you preparing for it?  Are you preparing others?  Are you preaching the Gospel, and telling others the only way to salvation and to escape the wrath of God is through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?  Or are you following this man-savior to the pit?

1Thessalonians 5:2-4 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say , Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child ; and they shall not escape . 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

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  1. Reblogged this on Newjerusalemcoming and commented:
    My sister is sounding the ALARM!


  2. Lisa …………..You have a lot of good solid truth going for you and I can see why you have certain questions such as where does the evil go when Christ returns? will people just not abort their children anymore? People won’t murder or want to be sodomites anymore? All these questions are answered in scripture and is seen in Romans 1:24-32 (20 things) are listed from verses 28-31 which includes your questions of such behaviour people choose to live.
    God’s answer is found in the final passage that even though these people know the Judgement of God and it is WRONG what they are doing,they insist on living in their sin and God says these actions are worthy of death! It would be great if all came to the knowledge of the truth Lisa and that WOULD BE HEAVEN and that is exactly who will be there! There’s a heaven and a hell some are going to one place and some are going to the other.To those who have chose to follow Christ as I see you have will be with Christ for all Eternity,but for those who care less about how they lived ….Sodomites and the such God has prepared a place for such rebellion as well……. I believe you will find comfort in the following passages of Just what heaven will be like and who will and won’t be there.(Revelation 21:21-27).God Bless You Lisa.
    Next Monday I will be posting the truth of when Christ was born and by you saying you do not celebrate Christmas I say Praise God for you must have learned the truth of Christ’s birth. The post on this Monday will be called “When Was Jesus Born”. I think you will like it.


    • Hi Julia, I do like your posts but you totally and completely misunderstand what I was trying to say. I’m not wondering where evil goes when Christ returns. I was wondering how I am not ashamed thought we could get rid of evil before Christ comes and how that would work out in reality, which is how I took her post. I guess I am not ashamed and I are done with our conversation so it doesn’t matter anyway. But it bothers me that you think that I need comforting about what happens to evil when Christ comes, I’m not a new Christian. You must be used to responding to people who are new to Christianity and who have not studied the Bible at all.


  3. Lisa………………..When you say just because you don’t say anything does’nt mean you are agreeing,believe it or not you are agreeing by not voicing the truth God places on our hearts as believers.We are called to take his light of knowledge to a world of darkness. Jesus did’nt sit by when he overturned the money changers in the temple,nor did Moses find a place to sit idle when God wanted him to bring the Israelites out of Egypt. Jonah tried his best to hide from God til he realized the importance of the message God placed on his heart to preach repentance to Nineveh.It is written how will they know lest one be sent…….The sent ones are Christians who fight against the darkness of the evil this world accepts as right! God is calling those who overcome the evil trying to call itself good.? To not preach gives no purpose to the life of the believer,it would just be another person sitting there accepting the wrong for fear of speaking the word which Jesus even said will offend many.BLESSED are those who are not offended in him.(Matthew 11:6).God Bless You.


    • When I said I don’t say anything I meant in like a blog or in some grand way. We are talking about politics and I know of no way that I could say anything that would be effective in the grand scheme of things. I do say my own little things here and there and I can assure you from the responses that I have not made friends. I am not a leader and I don’t have friends enough to change anything, but sometimes when I read this blog and others I get the feeling that I am not doing enough and should be doing more. Which is why I commented. I’m not sure what it is that she thinks I ought to be doing and I asked what it could be. I understand that she feels the need to talk about it in her blog but to act like everyone who doesn’t is sitting idly by. I’m not in the dark and I don’t feel that I sit idly by when I pray and seek God. I just don’t know of anyway that I can change the evil of this world that the world would be right again. Because for one I don’t believe that the world was ever right after the fruit was eaten and two I don’t understand what she thinks will happen if abortion or homosexual marriage is outlawed. Does that make a difference? In my mind I don’t see how it would. People are still going to sin whether it’s legal or not. Or what happens if preachers started preaching right? If that happens I predict that most of the churches would be empty because the itching ears would find another church that tells them what they want to hear. Which is why I said that if Jesus says these things will happen why are we trying to fight against it like we have a chance of changing things? God says when his arm is stretched out who can turn it back?


      • Lisa, you are a shining light on a hill. As Paul say’s we are all one body many parts. Your job is different than mine. And because you follow your heart and the Holy Spirit those who do not don’t understand. Julia is working on a post I think you’ll like it will be out next week. I in my zeal come across very strong at times. But my heart is so heavy for those that are following the world. Many churches are following after worldly desires. That’s the job I take seriously. It doesn’t mean you are to do the same thing. Julia and others are different than me, but they each have their messages. I use Julia as an example because she is an author here. But there are many sites that don’t write about the things I do. There are many sites who think I’m different. I have had conversations with many who think I’m wrong. But it’s very plain to see they are not following scripture. I don’t mind being the odd man out in this case. Because I am with my Lord. And we will live in a Eutopian society when Jesus rules. No more, pain, no more sorrow, no more death won’t that be wonderful!!! In the meantime, let’s work the Harvest and try to save as many as we can, and try to wake up as many as we can. Oh, I’m not trying to fight against what Jesus said would happen, really I’m not. I accepted that when I accepted Him as my Savior. It does pain me though to see so many falling away. Maybe we just need to comfort one another with the words of Jesus, ‘I will never leave you nor forsake you even unto the end of time.’ He’s here, he’s staying, and someday soon we will see Him! God Bless you!! And thank you!


  4. I’m not trying to criticize you, I have been reading your blog for most of the year, but why worry about the Catholics? They aren’t even Christian’s. As for Christian’s maybe you can tell me cause I don’t know, what are Christians supposed to do about politics? I have read other people who think Christians are supposed to be involved and somehow that will change the world, but I don’t understand how that would work. Maybe you know since you seem to be saying the same thing. I do understand the lack of real Christianity, but then Jesus said that would happen, so I’m not sure that if He said it would happen how we stop it from happening. You keep saying we are in the end times, so people falling away from the gospel is a fact in the end times, I don’t see the point of being mad at something that is part of the end times. Just because I don’t say anything does not mean that I agree, I don’t but I don’t see how I can change anything, especially if God said it would happen. Perhaps that seems foolish for me to be like that, however when I read the gospel I don’t read about anyone trying to get into politics to change anything. They are telling people about Jesus and that’s not always fun either. The truth is that this world belongs to satan and he is the one in charge so it’s gonna suck. The Christian needs to follow God and if God isn’t organizing his people to fight in this world for what you think we should be fighting for, then maybe you should let that be your answer and stop blaming Christians for not getting involved like you think we should. I don’t read anything in your blog about how we organize and what exactly we as Christians do to stop the world from its madness. But then no one really says what we should all do to stop evil they just seem to hope someone will have all the answers and stop it. Jesus will be here one day and stop the evil madness of the world and I believe that that is the answer you’re looking for, beyond that you may be expecting humans to do only what God can do.


    • Lisa, what you say is very true. But in order for us to be that shining light on the hill, we have to let our voices be heard. If you look at history, even ancient history when Israel went through trials, most of the judgments were from complacency, it started small allowing others to worship other gods, then before you know it they were a nation who had turned from the God of their fathers to a foreign God. Look at WW2 there were only a few who spoke out like Deitrich Bonhoffer, spoke out against the evils overtaking Germany. While the falling away is prophecied, we don’t have to be a part of it. We are not to sit idly by while evil overtakes us. We can start by voting in leaders who share the same beliefs, we can speak out against abortion. Many preachers have likened abortion to the god of molech, and I think that isn’t a wrong analogy. We can speak out against homosexual marriage. We can demand our religious leaders to tell the truth instead of condoning sin and sinful behavior. Yes we are in the endtimes, that is why it is so important to watch and warn. We will all stand before God no matter what you believe, we will all give an account of our actions. I don’t want to explain to God why I didn’t speak out against evil, why I stood by and let overtake every aspect of our lives. Why I didn’t warn people that putting their faith in a man was not the same as putting their faith in God. There are so many reasons, it’s hard to list them all. I feel I am doing what the Holy Spirit leads me to do in warning, warning to speak out, warning to prepare. I do value your comments. A healthy discussion always helps all those involved. That is what the Holy Spirit guides me to believe.


      • I agree with having a health discussion, I like learning and from having read your blog and other things I have learned a lot this year. I know we need to shine our light however I wonder for some if that means just living your beliefs. That may sound easy, but in a world full of sin, it really isn’t. Try not to lie even little white lies, that’s tough sometimes. I don’t celebrate Christmas and people wonder about you then. I told a group of Christians that I didn’t think celebrating Christmas was Christian and you should have seen the angry look a Christian man gave me. Preach the gospel, use words if necessary come to mind. I don’t believe I am sitting idly by as evil overtakes us. I pray and seek God everyday because I can’t come up with a plan that takes out evil even for an instant. Whether I sing from the mountain tops or not evil will overtake us. That I am sure of Revelation tells me so. I think we are in the end times however it’s hard for me to judge how close we really are to Jesus’ return. Like you I am watching and waiting but for many I agree they are clueless. The church is a joke, you can’t find a real Christian church anywhere anymore. So I’m not sure if the Christians are lost how this world can go right? And in the end times it’s really not supposed to. The path is narrow that leads to life and wide that leads to destruction. I see many, many people on the wide path and very few going down that narrow way. I just don’t see where we can just vote in leaders who share the same beliefs, the Bible tells us not to trust man and every election we do and every election we are disappointed because we thought man can fix things. We can’t fix anything we don’t know how which is why we needed a Savior. Only Jesus can fix anything. I tried to fix my life only it didn’t help, when I trusted God that’s when things changed, I feel the world is the same way. He didn’t use his disciples to fix the world He used them to talk to individuals. I think we will stand before God in the end too, but I think He will be more concerned that I didn’t let evil overtake me personally, that I didn’t shrink back to death and destruction. I can’t control what others think and I can’t make them do the right things, I can tell them but I can only be responsible for me and I need God’s help everyday with that. And perhaps to you I’m not a good Christian for not doing more, I just don’t understand if all the Christians stood up what the end goal is for us? We will live in a Christian world then? Evil will cower and go away? No one will abort their children, murder or want to be sodomites? I guess that’s what confuses me the most. Thanks for the discussion 🙂


  5. Reblogged this on NoWorksSalvationApocalypseNow and commented:
    The simplest amount of investigation proves that Nazi National Socialist party and all forms of Marxism are the preferred types of government for suppressing the masses. The Right and Left paradigm still has one goal of slavery for the masses. Jesus Christ came to set the captives free. By definition that makes the leaders that pursue this Left/Right facade Antichrists!


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